Translating Rumi

[BugsyMalone1102]

Hello all,

I learned about Solresol over a year ago, but have not gotten a good grasp on it. In order to learn, I have started a project to help myself. I am attempting to translate one of my favorite poems, Rumi's "Pure Light," into Solresol, and animate it. A few things:

1) There's no sound.
2) It goes really, REALLY quickly. Sorry about that. I am trying to put all the information in before I work out the timing.
3) I extended the color bars to show plurals.
4) The orange came out as a brownish tone. I gotta fix that.
5) I couldn't find the translation for some of the words. I have marked these words with an asterisk (*) below. If you know what they are, please let me know.

Here are the lines I have used so far:

"I am totally lost in the folds of love,
Totally free of worry and care.

I have passed beyond the four qualities.
My heart* has torn away the veil of pretense.

There was a time I circled with the nine spheres*,
rolling with the stars across the sky."

Please, please let me know of any grammatical errors, strange word choice, etc. I am so new to this language, so all constructive criticism is more than welcome.

The video is here:
https://vimeo.com/103471119

Thanks!

Bugsy

[Madeline]

That's really cool!

I wish I could give you constructive criticism, but having just discovered it yesterday, I'm even newer than you are to this language. So I can't appreciate your creation fully, but I'm still fascinated by it, and I love the way you put it together, especially the way it moves. ^-^ But I think, in a way, not yet being able to understand anything makes it even more mystifying and inspiring for me. I hope at some point in the future I will be able to "read" the colors and understand it.

[Doresifado]

OMG! I love Rumi!

[BugsyMalone1102]

I'm finished with the animation of the colors. I've moved on to sound. Hopefully this will be done by the end of the year! I'll let everyone know when it's completed.

[Phil_Shary]

I love the visualization here.

[gerardbrown]

Congratulations - this looks great! I look forward to taking a closer look...

[BugsyMalone1102]

Hi everyone,

I'm having a lot of trouble with the music part of the video. I started by making the words in midi on GarageBand, but I'd like it to sound fuller. I figured drums would round out the soundtrack, but I am not a musician and it doesn't sound quite like I want it to. If anyone has any ideas on how to make it sound like Solresol, but still "pretty," that would be a great help. Even better, we could make this into a group project. If anyone wants to take on the sound part of it themselves, I'd be more than happy to collaborate!

[Phil_Shary]

Hi everyone,

I'm having a lot of trouble with the music part of the video. I started by making the words in midi on GarageBand, but I'd like it to sound fuller. I figured drums would round out the soundtrack, but I am not a musician and it doesn't sound quite like I want it to. If anyone has any ideas on how to make it sound like Solresol, but still "pretty," that would be a great help. Even better, we could make this into a group project. If anyone wants to take on the sound part of it themselves, I'd be more than happy to collaborate!

Hi, I will be happy to help - just tell me what kind of instruments you would like to have there. If you choose a puristic approach to music and SolReSol, then you wouldn't be allowed to have any drums since even the drums that we call non-chromatic or non-pitched, do produce a sound of a certain "timbre", which can be translated as a certain SolReSol note.
To put it in a nutshell, if I play the word SolReSol, then it will sound as G-D-G, which is good, but if I add some drums (which might sound as C to a musician with a perfect hearing) to that, then it might become G-C-D-C-G-C, which would mean completely different words in SolReSol. All that means that normally you are limited to one instrument only (or a number of instruments which are playing unison, i.e. the same sounds simultaneously) if you want to keep the SolReSol message intact.

In fact, in my SolReSol: The Project I'm currently working on you will be able to translate whole phrases from English into realtime SolReSol music and colors and back. Watch the preview of real random-generated SolReSol here (this might be too quick, but you get the idea):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDHvGArs ... zNJJww6iyA
But anyway, I wouldn't like to be the kind of person who invades other people's topics to promote my own software (oh, wait )

So if you're interested, send the score to sharyphil@gmail.com and tell me what instruments you would prefer (I've got a nice selection of very realistic instruments) the approximate speed at which you want the notes to sound and I'll create an audio file for you.

Cheers,
Phil

[gerardbrown]

I think it does have to do with how you view the act of translation. I've been working on a project where I started by observing the Solresol rules very closely, but as I worked on it, I realized that what I am trying to do is use the language as a tool to generate compositions. That has provided me with some interesting restrictions and opportunities...how to determine note duration, when to deploy chords, how to consider polyphony...
~g

[BugsyMalone1102]

Hey guys,

One of my recent paintings uses another translated Rumi poem. I'll add more layers to it, but it's here: http://progressiveprocess.blogspot.com/ ... c.html?m=1